Does anyone start planning their missions in the Mission Hub? When the area to start adding waypoints is located, the satellite imagery is 2D blurry gray and white, making it difficult to accurately set waypoints.
Any insights is appreciated.
Depending on internet speed, it can take a while (a minute or longer) to clear up.
Yes. I have been planning missions in the Mission Hub for around seven years. Iâm sure scores of other people have too. Do you experience the same behavior when browsing Google Maps?
This may suggest either a slow internet connection or an under-powered computer. My internet connection speed is 100Mbps. Do a speed test to see what yours is. Also, are you using a reasonably modern computer? Graphics chips from a previous decade may have trouble rendering satellite imagery.
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@wesbarris thank you for your prompt response. Here ar emy current internet, computer and imagery results:
⢠Internet download speed: 550 Mbps
⢠2020 M1 Mini
⢠at 10 km/in, Mission Hub displays terrain greens and browns
⢠at ~200 m/in start losing color; further lowering of altitude worsens image to finally gray-white
⢠âDiscoverâ missions show proper imagery
Hope this is helpful.
Your network speed is certainly fast enough. You didnât mention anything about your computer or whether or not you see the same behavior using Google Maps. Since I cannot replicate what you describe (my map view in the Mission Hub updates extremely quickly in âHybridâ mode), this may require some troubleshooting on your part. If I was experiencing this I would try a different computer or a different application (Google Maps). If you are using a VPN, try disabling it.
My computer is a 2020 M1 Mini from Apple. I donât use Google Maps. I have switched to Hybrid mode with no imagery changes. No VPN is in use. Now, I am using Google Earth to see how the gray-white geographic area looks; but I cannot zoom closer than 4200â without going into ground-level-view. Will have to research this.
I donât have direct experience with an M1 Mini but the GPU in that should have sufficient capabilities for this.
While you may not normally use Google Maps, it would make for a good comparison to Litchiâs Mission Hub. Like the Mission Hub, all you have to do is go to maps.google.com in your browser. It would be an interesting comparison because both would be using Googleâs map interface.
I canât think of any other reason for the maps in Litchiâs Mission Hub to be slow to respond. Even if you are in an area that is not updated frequently, I wouldnât think speed would be affected.
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Blockquote go to maps.google.com in your browser.
Iâll take your advice and try Google Maps.
BlockquoteLitchiâs Mission Hub to be slow to respond
It is not slow to respond; it just is blurry with only gray-white color.
Iâll let you know how Google Maps displays the geo-area.
@wesbarris attached is a screen shot from Google Maps of the geo-area in question;
it is identical to the Mission Hub image: diffused and gray-white making it difficult to set exact waypoints.
It looks like you have grayscale mode enabled. Iâm not an Apple user, but I have heard about users accidentally changing the mode in Settings.
When you post a question asking if anyone plans their missions in the Mission Hub and say that the satellite imagery is 2D and blurry, you are suggesting that there is something wrong with the Mission Hub. Since your initial post, I have been trying to identify a technical reason why the Mission Hub is not providing you with the proper satellite imagery. As it turns out, itâs not a technical reason related to Litchi (or even Google Maps).
Now that you have posted a snapshot of what you are seeing, the answer is obvious and should have been obvious to you. All you would have had to do is navigate to the east and into the city to see that the imagery is not blurry at all and the white/gray you are seeing is snow. Satellite imagery can be taking during the winter or the summer. It can show snow or green grass. The imagery displayed in Google Maps represents the latest, clear satellite views. The current satellite view of the area in question was captured in April, 2024, when there was snow in the area. The previous satellite view of that area was captured in May, 2023 and showed green grass.
There is no problem in Litchiâs Mission Hub, Google Maps, or the satellite imagery. It is just snow. Snow can sometimes mask the elevation changes that would otherwise be more obvious. Here is a May, 2023 view of the area:
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@wesbarris thank you very much; I never suspected the gray-white terrain was snow (which is not very helpful for setting waypoints). So, how do I find the imagery that you found for May 2023, when in the Mission Hub?
If you go to the location you posted, then navigate to the east, toward the city, it would become more obvious that what you are looking at is snow. Snow-covered areas are not always as bad as the location you showed. I think because the sun was directly overhead at the time of this satellite imagery, it makes it more difficult to see changes in terrain elevation.
The short answer is: âYou canâtâ. What you see in Litchiâs Mission Hub or in Google Maps, is the latest satellite imagery that Google decides is good enough to show. Depending on the area, satellite imagery is updated anywhere from several times a year to once every few years. Unless Google decides that the latest imagery for a specific area is of insufficient quality, it will display the latest.
However, if you use the Google Earth Pro desktop application, you can view the latest imagery and all of the historic imagery. To do this, display the area in question using Google Earth Pro. Then, in the lower left corner of the main window, click on the small â1985â button. Doing so will display a slider in the upper-left corner of the main window. You can then use the slider to select any of the satellite imagery available and see the month/year when the imagery was captured.
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@wesbarris excellent; this will indeed help with more precise waypoint settings.
Another question about Mission Hub imagery - can it be asked in this discussion or should I start a new thread?
If it is related to the satellite imagery, ask it here.
Thanks. In Mission Hub, when changing the Map Type to Terrain, to get more topographic detail in the image, the result was a flat (no detail) beige background (see image).
It is interesting that Google just reverted to the 10/2023 imagery just now. The other day they were providing the 4/2024 (snow) imagery.
Hi @wesbarris around Here(pardon the pun) the most up to date imagery is to be found on HERE, with Google being several years out of date:
HERE
And this is pretty much up to date, Images produced with WebODM using images captured with Mini2
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@Martin_Reading this is interesting and an answer to my original post. @wesbarris helped me to find Google Earth overlays of the area without snow; but, if I can start in Mission Hub with no snow terrain, that makes planning more straight forward.
However, there are two things I still do not understand:
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today when I checked the Soldier Ridge Trail mission site, it is without snow (giving more detail for setting waypoints); yesterday, it showed snow. (Copyright is 2024-not 2023; but like wesbarris said, one needs to go to GE to see another year of imagery)?
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When I change the âMap Typeâ to Terrain, I still get a diffused beige image (looks somewhat like the previous snow images). My expectation was that choosing âTerrainâ would display more definition and contours.
